How does the huge crowd for the pope’s Mass in East Timor compare to others?
How does the huge crowd for the pope’s Mass in East Timor compare to others?
An estimated 600,000 people — nearly half of East Timor’s population — packed a seaside park Tuesday for Pope Francis’ final Mass, held on the same field where St. John Paul II prayed 35 years ago during the nation’s fight for independence from Indonesia.
Pope Francis on Tuesday signed the popemobile that he used during his visit to East Timor. The pontiff put his signature on the vehicle after saying mass at a seaside park outside the capital. An estimated 600,000 people - nearly half of East Timor’s population - attended the service.
Thousands of Timorese converged on a seaside park for the pontiff’s Mass Tuesday, as he continues his historic visit to one of the world’s youngest and poorest countries.
FILE - Pilgrims and residents gather on Copacabana beach before the arrival of Pope Francis for World Youth Day in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, on July 27, 2013. (AP Photo/Felipe Dana, File)
FILE - Pope John Paul II. waves to huge crowd of faithful downtown Wadowice, the hometown of the Pope he is visiting on June 7, 1979, for the first time he had been elected as Pope. It is the Pontiff’s sixth day of his nine-day-visit to his homeland Poland. (AP Photo/POOL, File)
FILE - Pope Francis on the popemobile, waves at worshipers at the Martyrs’ Stadium in Kinshasa, Congo, on Feb. 2, 2023. (AP Photo/Samy Ntumba Shambuyi, File)
FILE - Worshippers cheer as they wait for the arrival of Pope Francis at Rizal Park in Manila, Philippines on Sunday, Jan. 18, 2015. (AP Photo/Alessandra Tarantino, File)
Faithful gather at the Esplanade of Taci Tolu during Pope Francis’ apostolic trip to Asia, in Dili, East Timor, Tuesday, Sept. 10, 2024. (Willy Kurniawan/Pool Photo via AP)
FILE -Well-wishers wait for Pope Francis in Kinshasa, Congo, on Jan. 31, 2023. (AP Photo/Samy Ntumba Shambuyi, File)
FILE - Crowds attend the World Youth Day’s closing Mass line the shore of Copacabana beach in Rio de Janeiro, on July 28, 2013. An estimated 3 million people poured onto the beach for the final Mass of Pope Francis’ historic trip to his home continent, cheering the first Latin American pope in one of the biggest turnouts for a papal Mass in recent history. (AP Photo/Domenico Stinellis, File)
FILE - People attend the World Youth Day’s closing Mass celebrated by Pope Francis on the Copacabana beachfront, in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, on July 28, 2013. (AP Photo/Felipe Dana, File)
FILE - Crowds line the Copacabana beachfront as they attend the World Youth Day’s concluding Mass celebrated by Pope Francis, in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, on July 28, 2013. Francis wrapped up is historic trip to his home continent Sunday with a Mass that drew a reported 3 million people. (AP Photo/Felipe Dana, File)
FILE - Pope John Paul II. has his arms around the Primate of Poland, Stefan Cardinal Wyszynski, right, and the Bishop of Czestochowa, Stanislaw Barela, as he faces huge crowd of faithful outside the Jasna Gora monastery, Czestochowa, on June 4, 1979, where the Pontiff holds a pontifical mass on his third day of his nine-day-visit to his homeland Poland. (AP Photo, File)
FILE - Pope John Paul II stands in his car as hundreds of thousands of people bid him farewell beneath the Jasna Gora monastery in Czestochowa, Poland, on June 6, 1979. The Pope was greeted by wildly enthusiastic crowds on his first visit to his homeland as leader of the Catholic faith. (AP Photo, File)
FILE - Pope John Paul II. stands in open car as he greets cheering crowd of believers, on the third day of the Pontiff’s historical nine-day-visit to his homeland Poland, June 4, 1979 at Czestochowa near the famous monastery Jasna Gora. (AP Photo, File)
FILE - Young people wait for the arrival of Pope Francis in Santo Tomas University in Manila, Philippines, on Jan. 18, 2015. (AP Photo/Alessadra Tarantino, File)
FILE - Pope Francis, in the vehicle, waves to the faithful as he arrives at Rizal Park to celebrate his final Mass in Manila, Philippines, on Jan. 18, 2015. (AP Photo/Wally Santana, File)
FILE - Crowds cheer as Pope Francis passes by during his meeting with the youth at the University of Santo Tomas in Manila, Philippines, on Jan. 18, 2015. (AP Photo/Aaron Favila, File)
Faithful gather at the Esplanade of Taci Tolu during Pope Francis’ apostolic trip to Asia, in Dili, East Timor, Tuesday, Sept. 10, 2024. (Willy Kurniawan/Pool Photo via AP)
An estimated 600,000 people — nearly half of East Timor’s population — packed a seaside park Tuesday for Pope Francis’ final Mass, held on the same field where St. John Paul II prayed 35 years ago during the nation’s fight for independence from Indonesia.
Pope Francis on Tuesday signed the popemobile that he used during his visit to East Timor. The pontiff put his signature on the vehicle after saying mass at a seaside park outside the capital. An estimated 600,000 people - nearly half of East Timor’s population - attended the service.
FILE - Pilgrims and residents gather on Copacabana beach before the arrival of Pope Francis for World Youth Day in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, on July 27, 2013. (AP Photo/Felipe Dana, File)
FILE - Pope John Paul II. waves to huge crowd of faithful downtown Wadowice, the hometown of the Pope he is visiting on June 7, 1979, for the first time he had been elected as Pope. It is the Pontiff’s sixth day of his nine-day-visit to his homeland Poland. (AP Photo/POOL, File)
FILE - Pope John Paul II. waves to huge crowd of faithful downtown Wadowice, the hometown of the Pope he is visiting on June 7, 1979, for the first time he had been elected as Pope. It is the Pontiff’s sixth day of his nine-day-visit to his homeland Poland. (AP Photo/POOL, File)
FILE - Pope Francis on the popemobile, waves at worshipers at the Martyrs’ Stadium in Kinshasa, Congo, on Feb. 2, 2023. (AP Photo/Samy Ntumba Shambuyi, File)
FILE - Worshippers cheer as they wait for the arrival of Pope Francis at Rizal Park in Manila, Philippines on Sunday, Jan. 18, 2015. (AP Photo/Alessandra Tarantino, File)
Faithful gather at the Esplanade of Taci Tolu during Pope Francis’ apostolic trip to Asia, in Dili, East Timor, Tuesday, Sept. 10, 2024. (Willy Kurniawan/Pool Photo via AP)
FILE -Well-wishers wait for Pope Francis in Kinshasa, Congo, on Jan. 31, 2023. (AP Photo/Samy Ntumba Shambuyi, File)
FILE - Crowds attend the World Youth Day’s closing Mass line the shore of Copacabana beach in Rio de Janeiro, on July 28, 2013. An estimated 3 million people poured onto the beach for the final Mass of Pope Francis’ historic trip to his home continent, cheering the first Latin American pope in one of the biggest turnouts for a papal Mass in recent history. (AP Photo/Domenico Stinellis, File)
FILE - Crowds attend the World Youth Day’s closing Mass line the shore of Copacabana beach in Rio de Janeiro, on July 28, 2013. An estimated 3 million people poured onto the beach for the final Mass of Pope Francis’ historic trip to his home continent, cheering the first Latin American pope in one of the biggest turnouts for a papal Mass in recent history. (AP Photo/Domenico Stinellis, File)
FILE - People attend the World Youth Day’s closing Mass celebrated by Pope Francis on the Copacabana beachfront, in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, on July 28, 2013. (AP Photo/Felipe Dana, File)
FILE - Crowds line the Copacabana beachfront as they attend the World Youth Day’s concluding Mass celebrated by Pope Francis, in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, on July 28, 2013. Francis wrapped up is historic trip to his home continent Sunday with a Mass that drew a reported 3 million people. (AP Photo/Felipe Dana, File)
FILE - Crowds line the Copacabana beachfront as they attend the World Youth Day’s concluding Mass celebrated by Pope Francis, in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, on July 28, 2013. Francis wrapped up is historic trip to his home continent Sunday with a Mass that drew a reported 3 million people. (AP Photo/Felipe Dana, File)
FILE - Pope John Paul II. has his arms around the Primate of Poland, Stefan Cardinal Wyszynski, right, and the Bishop of Czestochowa, Stanislaw Barela, as he faces huge crowd of faithful outside the Jasna Gora monastery, Czestochowa, on June 4, 1979, where the Pontiff holds a pontifical mass on his third day of his nine-day-visit to his homeland Poland. (AP Photo, File)
FILE - Pope John Paul II. has his arms around the Primate of Poland, Stefan Cardinal Wyszynski, right, and the Bishop of Czestochowa, Stanislaw Barela, as he faces huge crowd of faithful outside the Jasna Gora monastery, Czestochowa, on June 4, 1979, where the Pontiff holds a pontifical mass on his third day of his nine-day-visit to his homeland Poland. (AP Photo, File)
FILE - Pope John Paul II stands in his car as hundreds of thousands of people bid him farewell beneath the Jasna Gora monastery in Czestochowa, Poland, on June 6, 1979. The Pope was greeted by wildly enthusiastic crowds on his first visit to his homeland as leader of the Catholic faith. (AP Photo, File)
FILE - Pope John Paul II stands in his car as hundreds of thousands of people bid him farewell beneath the Jasna Gora monastery in Czestochowa, Poland, on June 6, 1979. The Pope was greeted by wildly enthusiastic crowds on his first visit to his homeland as leader of the Catholic faith. (AP Photo, File)
FILE - Pope John Paul II. stands in open car as he greets cheering crowd of believers, on the third day of the Pontiff’s historical nine-day-visit to his homeland Poland, June 4, 1979 at Czestochowa near the famous monastery Jasna Gora. (AP Photo, File)
FILE - Pope John Paul II. stands in open car as he greets cheering crowd of believers, on the third day of the Pontiff’s historical nine-day-visit to his homeland Poland, June 4, 1979 at Czestochowa near the famous monastery Jasna Gora. (AP Photo, File)
FILE - Young people wait for the arrival of Pope Francis in Santo Tomas University in Manila, Philippines, on Jan. 18, 2015. (AP Photo/Alessadra Tarantino, File)
FILE - Pope Francis, in the vehicle, waves to the faithful as he arrives at Rizal Park to celebrate his final Mass in Manila, Philippines, on Jan. 18, 2015. (AP Photo/Wally Santana, File)
FILE - Crowds cheer as Pope Francis passes by during his meeting with the youth at the University of Santo Tomas in Manila, Philippines, on Jan. 18, 2015. (AP Photo/Aaron Favila, File)
Faithful gather at the Esplanade of Taci Tolu during Pope Francis’ apostolic trip to Asia, in Dili, East Timor, Tuesday, Sept. 10, 2024. (Willy Kurniawan/Pool Photo via AP)
TASITOLU, East Timor (AP) — Popes are popular. So much so that nearly half the population of East Timor gathered Tuesday in a seaside park for Pope Francis’ final Mass in the small Southeast Asian country whose people are deeply Catholic.
Other papal Masses have drawn millions of people in more populous countries, such as the Philippines, Brazil and Poland. But the estimated crowd of 600,000 people in East Timor was believed to represent the biggest turnout for a papal event ever in terms of the proportion of the population.
East Timor, also known as Timor-Leste, has been overwhelmingly Catholic ever since Portuguese explorers first arrived in the early 1500s and some 97% of the population today is Catholic. They turned out in droves to welcome the first pope to visit them since their independence in 2002, on the same field where St. John Paul II prayed in 1989 during the nation’s fight to separate from Indonesia.
While the East Timor gathering stands out, experts caution against relying on crowd counts that cannot be independently verified. The Vatican communicates crowd estimates that come from local organizers — who have an interest in overestimating the popularity of the head of the Roman Catholic Church.
Still, there’s no doubt that popes can pack a room — or a park. Here’s a look at other popular papal Masses:
Philippines
Pope Francis’ Mass in Manila drew an estimated 6 million people — a record that still stands more than a decade later — to Rizal Park and surrounding areas in 2015.
The faithful poured into Manila’s rain-soaked streets and the city’s biggest park as the pope ended his Asian pilgrimage with an appeal for Filipinos to protect their young from sin and vice so they can become missionaries of the faith. A sea of humanity in colorful rain ponchos spread out across the parkland and nearby boulevards, lining the motorcade route.
A Vatican spokesman said the Holy See had received the 6 million figure officially from local authorities and it had surpassed the record of 5 million people who turned out for then-Pope John Paul II’s final Mass in the same park in 1995. He was declared a saint in an unprecedented fast-tracked Vatican ceremony in 2014.
Rio’s Copacabana Beach
Vatican and Brazilian officials said 3.7 million people gathered on July 28, 2013, to see Pope Francis celebrate World Youth Day on the iconic Copacabana beach in the world’s biggest Catholic country. But number crunchers disputed the figure, saying the real number was not even half that.
The research director of Datafolha, one of Brazil’s top polling and statistic firms, said that based on the size of the crowd area and reasonable density estimates, turnout was more likely between 1.2 million and 1.5 million people.
By the Vatican’s count, the crowd density throughout the entire area — about 497,000 square meters (594,400 square yards or 5.3 million square feet) — would have been 7.4 people per square meter, which wouldn’t allow for movement of any kind, let alone the jumping, arm-waving, singing and dancing seen at the papal events.
Video and photos of the crowd also showed that while it was packed close to the gigantic altar built on Copacabana beach, the faithful thinned out along the 4-kilometer (2.5-mile) -long beach.
Poland
In 1979, St. John Paul II returned to his hometown of Krakow for his first visit to Poland after his elevation to the papacy. His Mass drew nearly 2 million people, according to the Polish Catholic news agency KAI, despite pressures from the Soviet-backed regime.
All told, at least 6 million of Poland’s 35 million people saw the pontiff along the route of his pilgrimage through multiple cities, including in city squares and open fields across the country. He said his farewell Mass on the outskirts of Krakow in a voice that was hoarse and wavering after nine days of speeches, Masses and other appearances before enthusiastic and adoring crowds.
The 1979 journey to Poland was later credited with helping to bring about the collapse of Communism.
More than 20 years later, the pontiff returned to Krakow. A 2002 open-air Mass there brought an estimated 2.5 million people to see the pope, KAI reported.
Congo
Pope Francis celebrated a Mass for 1 million people in Kinshasa, the capital of Congo, in 2023, at which he urged the country’s people to forgive those who committed “inhuman violence” against them.
Roughly half of Congo’s 105 million people are Catholic, according to the Vatican, which also cited local organizers for the estimate of 1 million people in the crowd.